The larger permanent cavity may lead to faster blood loss. Makes a difference the JHP will be a little hot for FMJ - assuming you are not making SD rounds. Reloading Heavy Bullets in 9mm Luger - Shooting Times I am gonna give it a try. Reloading is a personal responsibility and you must start low and work up and NEVER ASSUME. Warning! Im liking the W231 better as of late in the 9mm tho. Really..so, how would someone measure that? Pressure 27,100 to 31,400. For a newb, you are treading on very thin ice & IMO, haven't enough exp to determine if your load is "fine". Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. Powder Bul Weight C.O.L. Loading 9mm RN with Titegroup data - Northeastshooters.com Forums I will be shooting mostly target at the range, 150-200 rounds per visit. Velocities taken at ~4-5 feet from barrel. I can't seem to find the load data for 115gr FMJ w/Titegroup powder online or in the Lyman 49th manual. Does anyone have a link to somewhere with this info? I have been putting together some load data for some of the loads I use commonly. In 2015, Ryan and Dianna traveled to over 36 events across the world, including Italy and New Zealand. 1.100 in. 115 gr xtreme load/col data? | Northeastshooters.com Forums The current Lyman manual (49th Edition) does not have load data for anything heavier than 147 grains, but older manuals do. #1 As a beginner reloader, I'm looking for Titegroup load data for 9mm for 115 grains FMJ. During his time, Phillip completed 4 overseas deployments and served in all billets available to a Scout Sniper, to include Scout Sniper Team Leader, Chief Scout Sniper, and Scout Sniper Instructor. We do not take backorders and our Tech Services team cannot take orders via email or phone. Powered by Invision Community. The gun to be used is a Sig M11-A1 9mm, 4" barrel, standard recoil spring. Went out and tested 4 more loads today (2 of the same load) and got extremely similar results. What we load doesn't mean it will be safe for you. I have spent a lot of time perusing through the 9mm Reloading section and it seems that most folks who are using 124gr FMJ & JHP bullets with Titegroup are loading their cases with 4.0gr to 4.2gr of powder. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Precision is making and looks forward to the future of creating the best professional custom rifles on the market. 1 - 4 of 4 Posts. Just In the 2019 season, he will compete in twelve two-day national matches and 15 regional matches across the country, totaling 4,170 precision hand-loaded match rounds burning roughly 131,355 grains (18.75 pounds) of Varget in matches alone. I didn't use TG; it was Longshot (or WW452AA?) I looked at 9mm load data for 115, 124, 147gr and the range for Titegroup is, well, tight. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! A licensed Montana Professional Outfitter and Guide freelance writer, his articles and photographs have been featured in magazines including Outdoor Life, American Hunter, American Rifleman, Field and Stream. Shooting steel plates or need to shoot fast? Both Plated round nose and JHP. http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=9%20mm&Weight=115&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source, http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/dm&Weight=115&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source, http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=566352. My guess is 900 FPS jacketed load is getting close to not being able to guarantee the bullet always leaving the barrel, where a 1000 FPS load is more certain. I used 4.5 grains of Titegroup with a 115 grain Berry's FMJ bullet and an OAL of 1.125 to 1.130. A top quality jacketed bullet is a top quality jacketed bullet. December 31, 2019 in 9mm/38 Caliber. Those who would emasculate Americans by denying them the right to bear arms are guilty of aiding and abetting evil when it strikes. Shellholders: Lee #19 Same load just use the coal from another powders load. Thanks for your patience. http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp, https://fsreloading.com/lee-precision-perfect-powder-measure-90058.html, Firearms News and Firearms related political news. I am using 115 gr jacketed bullets with Titegroup powder. We continue to prioritize our shipments to our traditional sales channels to maximize powder availability at retailers. I looked at 9mm load data for 115, 124, 147gr and the range for Titegroup is, well, tight. It's the cheapest and most available powder for 9mm in my area. Works good in everything from my 1911 to Glock YMMV. I always set up my chrono at 10ft from the muzzle. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Obligatory start low and work your way up 4 hours ago, looking4reloadingdeals said: 6 hours ago, looking4reloadingdeals said: I use the Caldwell chrono and it statesthat the unit must be 10-15 ft from the muzzle for the reading. I like using this gun because I've heard HK tests it at 2x max pressure specs for the 9mm. I am using TiteGroup for 9mm, but I`m loading 124 gr. Sponsored by many of the hunting industries leading manufacturers, he has conducted over a thousand hunting and fishing seminars across the United States and has hunted and fished extensively around the world. Hell they even have chrono`s that mount right on the barrels of rifles these days. Gaige Grosskreutz -- The Felon Shot By Kyle Rittenhouse. behind a 115gr. Jake travels the country shooting, directing precision rifle matches, and teaching precision rifle classes. PF is between 130-135 depending on gun. I didn't think 4.5 grains was a max load either, because on the Titegroup container it says that for 115gr Speer GDHP max load is 4.8 gr. Used Titegroup and a variety of different weight and mfg bullets. And how are you metering 3.3gr? Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by jell-dog, Mar 14, 2017. I am about to load my first rounds and need some data. Shoots well, functions well and it is light enough. The google sheet has been updated for those interested in the difference or who want to reference the sheet. I think someone posted that very information just yesterday. CFE Pistol & Titegroup loads for 115GR Plated RN 9MM There aint nothin like the smell of burnt gunpowder in the mornin. Titegroup: 0.356" 1.100" 3 . When you load this stuff, you better be focused on what you are doing, its not recommended for anyone that loads with many powders around, constantlys swapping powders. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. BrianEnos.com Better to be too careful than blow something up. Unique - 4.6 gn - 1100 fps. My goal was to find a load that worked well is all my 9MMs with differing barrel lengths, rifling, etc. First for 9mm and now for 45ACP. I found anything much lower to be too weak. Diannas also won the 2015 NRA World Shooting Championship Ladies title. Her assignments included Patrol, Street Crimes, Narcotics, and Gangs. I have been using 3.3gr Titegroup under 147fmj at 1.15 coal. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! Hodgdon Titegroup: Quest for the Perfect 9mm Hand Load Part 10 I have the Hornady manual, but nothing about Titegroup in the manual for 9mm. Brian moved back to Idaho, where he completed his bachelors degree in Business Finance at Albertsons College of Idaho. Currently Jake has over 65 top three podium finishes in the last four years, another record! Chad is also the Director of Advertising & Media Relations for CVA Muzzleloaders, PowerBelt Bullets, Bergara USA, DuraSight Rings and Bases, Quake Industries and Konus Optics. An avid outdoorsman, he enjoys hunting and fishing with his family and mentoring youth through his ministry service. We place limited powder inventory for sale on a regular basis on our website. Titegroup I use 4 gr @ 1.130". Second Media Inc., 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Brian Neace grew up in Southern Idaho in the Snake River Plain, surrounded by miles and miles of high desert to the north and bordered on the south by public wilderness. 6 grains? Starting at mid range up to max. Maybe Ill do another test with the chrono 10ft away and see if I get any difference in results, thanks. I shot a lot of Sta-Ball 6.5 and it worked well beyond expectations. Speer says 4.5gr is max, Lyman say 4.5gr is max w/ 115gr bullets, so I am having a diff time digesting your data. Need 9mm Titegroup 115gr JHP load data | Glock Talk Shooter's Reference Load Data for 9 mm Luger WARNING: If you are a newer reloader, you do not want to start out using this powder. Because it's a fast powder well suited to moderate-to-light recoil/PF loads, and because it is. Todd is also a sought-after firearms instructor for military, law enforcement, and competitive shooters around the world. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. You can find Ryan on Shooting Gallery on The Outdoor Channel, and Realtree.com. He harvested his first turkey and whitetail deer at age 5 and completed his turkey grand slam by age 11. I remember seeing something similar here long time back. This works well for me, although the TG seems to meter a bit inconsistant, so I bought some WSF to try out. First reloading experience was disappointing until I learned the process and started making very consistent ammo. 9mm load for USPSA | Northeastshooters.com Forums That is all the negatives about it, it shoots just fine, its very economical and its just fine with accuracy. After looking at my previous set ups, the chrono was likely at about 7 feet, not 5. Its easy to double charge your rounds, as you will barely notice. An avid shooter and outdoorsman, George takes pride in the quality custom rifles that G.A. I'm hoping this data may help some others that are looking for some data with Titegroup powder. What's the difference between the Berry's plated bullets and FMJ? Use the LRN and you will be good. Load Data - The Blue Bullets You need to get teh double disc kit. You don't want to just use data from a similar bullet. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. Excellent pistol powder for accuracy and cowboy action shooting. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. In my time I have worked on improving myself to take it as high as I can. In Pistols and Revolvers.. I consider the type of bullet. You are using an out of date browser which is likely incompatible with our website. For over 25 years, he has worked in the firearms industry in product development, working and consulting with small arms manufacturing and related products. Load data for 147g coated bullet with titegroup - 9mm/38 Caliber Like many reloaders I ended up with 6 or 7 different powders for my pistols until I shot 5 rounds from each similar FPS loads from a bench. I have looked at the factroy specs but I was looking for some input on loads that others use. This is safe, yes? 125 gn bullets: Titegroup - 3.8 gn - 1100 fps. FMJ in my XD-9 vel. I haven't shot any yet but it would be disappointing if I had to pull 150 bullets. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. No issues there. In 2016, Phillip was nominated for Scout Sniper Instructor of the Year for his meticulous instruction that resulted in institutional changes in the training of Marine Scout Snipers in both formal schools and unit level training. Need a 9MM hornady load data check please | Glock Talk Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. I have shot benchrest, F-Class, PRS, ELR, NRL hunter, and field matches. Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. A forum community dedicated to Carolina firearm owners and enthusiasts. Early on, its pointy full-metal-jacket rounds gave the 9x19mm a reputation as a horrible antipersonnel round. I use a Lee turret with the AutoDisk, and I'm finding that one cavity is at or lower than the recommended min charge, and the next cavity up is at or higher than the recommended max charge. Would the hp OAL be the same as that of the RN? Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. FYI, when you think about it..even the amount of crimp can/will/could affect things. Former lead pilot of the Blue Angels John Foley has reached been in contact along with Remington Mcbee and several others. After looking at my previous set ups, the chrono was likely at about 7 feet, not 5. This link will be updated as I continue to develop more loads and test them. After starting a life and career in Tulsa, she pursued barrel racing until she found 3-Gun in 2009. Depending upon the cartridge overall length. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Hmm, I thought it was 5ft. Thanks for the input everyone! I don`t recall my OAL for either without looking in my load notebook. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. Jaclyn has also taken up Extreme Long Range matches, including King of Two Miles in New Mexico, where she placed 14th out of 80 invited competitors. Notes: Chronograph figures are for five rounds taken with the start screen at approximately 6 feet. I use the Caldwell chrono and it statesthat the unit must be 10-15 ft from the muzzle for the reading. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! If you work from the max COL until they feed from the magazine and chamber correctly, you should find your ideal COL. My standard load is 124gr. I just loaded 1000 124 grain plated bullets with 4.2 grains of Titegroup. I have seen anything from 3.7-4.4 grains recommended. Working and enjoying the outdoors were just a normal part of day to day life. was 1146fps. This is a good consistent and uniform powder, reloads easy and accurate. This is my first time posting a link to a google sheets doc. His proven expertise in firearm manipulation and shooting techniques has enhanced the skills of countless individuals and agencies. RN for about 10 years with excellent results in my Glocks and STI pistols. Some flake powders have a wider range and they need it because they meter poorly. Jan 30, 2011 (Edited) I can't seem to find the load data for 115gr FMJ w/Titegroup powder online or in the Lyman 49th manual. JavaScript is disabled. Lee made a micro charge disc that may help with small loads. Current Oregon State Police Background Check Queue Status As Countdown To Measure 114 Vote Approaches. Zach started attending national shoots in 2018, including Junior Worlds, Junior Olympics Nationals, and USAYESS Nationals. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. THR Group Project - PISTOL - Advanced Reloading Concepts and Discussions. HP and RN load data are practically interchangeable since you should be working up from the minimum anyways. OAL is about 1.139 give or take. The Lee second edition manual shows 115gr jacketed has 4.8gr max at 1.125 oal for 1158fps. I really enjoy the community as well as the sport. Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound. A couple months later, Zach shot USAYESS competition in Grand Island. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I saw that there, Rusty, but I need data for FMJ, not HP. A devoted husband and father, Jake has formal degrees in sports medicine and youth ministry. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Skip this one, you can do better. Hodgdon Titegroup - NATO Reloading Do not load above recommended manufacturer book maximums. Make an introduction to Jake and youll instantly receive a big grin and firm handshake. Lee, Lyman, Hodgdon, Hornady, all sorts of manuals have data. I plan on using Titegroup since I have it for my 45ACP. Test gun is a HK P30L, which has about a 4.75" barrel. Didn't see any Tightgroup on this chart but plenty others. Ryan earned a Bachelors of Science in Chemistry and Plastics Engineering as well as a Masters of Science in Engineering Technologies. Used for my 9mm loads mostly. All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. TiteGroup is too fast burning to be a good universal powder. Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound. SUBSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTER TO STAY UP ON THE LATEST. The Wester #1 and Sierra #7 Manuals have 9mm +P data. Most manuals stop at 147 grains, though Hodgdon and Vihtavuori have data for 150 grain bullets. Hollow points may be shorter so COAL may vary some. You say that now. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, training, shows, accessories, classifieds, and more! In addition, she is also an outdoor writer and photographer, as well as a national seminar speaker. Regina Milkovich has been the leading female in precision rifle shooting since she first picked up a rifle in 2009. When we are sold out, we are sold out. Both are off according to the newer data I am not afraid to pull them apart and use data that I can easily find and a powder that has more bullets listed for it. We recommend that you use published lead load data from reputable sources. The largest difference was just over 1fps over a 10 shot average. From their home in Montana, Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha follows Chad, Marsha and their two boys-Walker and Wyatt-across the world in hunting adventures. Soon, Zach was shooting skeet and fell in love with the sport. In cases like this 9mm I would use the start data for the next heavier slug if that was there. Thanks guys. After this I would consider most all of the load data above close enough to start load development with. The Lyman 44th Edition has data for Bullseye, Red Dot, Unique and Herco for 158 grain cast lead bullets . The loads highlighted in yellow are those that I found work best for me. With my setup using the .32 orifice I get 3.5-3.6gr, .34 orifice 3.6-3.8gr and with the .37 orifice 4.1-4.2gr is dispensed. Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. Retired LEO/Rangemaster, Glock armorer, pistol instructor, Endowment NRA member. Berry's RN plated, 4.0gr Titegroup 1.143" OAL No issues running in STI Spartan, Glock 26,19,17 & 34 or my 9mm AR I put together with a NES YHM lower. JavaScript is disabled. As a beginner reloader, I'm looking for Titegroup load data for 9mm for 115 grains FMJ. If you can't find a properly developed published load for that combination, do yourself a favor: Call Hodgdon, and ask them for the specific load data. I would like a lighter load for practicenothing too hot. I'll be firing it through either the Glock 19 or 43. Hodgdon on line data is a good place to look. Its makes your gun a somewhat heat machine. Close w/ TG can be problematic. It is our mission to encourage, organize, and support these efforts throughout Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming. Not cast, but I have 4k 124gr Barry's plated over 4.0gr. I dont plan on stopping anytime soon and this year is scheduled to be as busy as any while shooting 4 different series. Zach has several friends that are getting into reloading shotshells because of Zachs reloads. I am really enjoying reloading 45 ACP on my Lee classic loader. Every match Ive been to that chronoshas the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. Started at 3.8 but it would not cycle my guns correctly so had to up it. Since opening GA Precision, George has been building some of the finest precision bolt guns and custom rifles. containers. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk . Be sure to enter theNES/MFS March Giveaway ***Taurus G3c***. I am doing 3.7gr of Titegroup 124gr bullet. She helps organize and coordinate Arizonas own national level event, the Tactical Precision Rifle Challenge. I do know its about mid charge range tho. Why? As an fyi, stay away from the 147gr berrys with titegroup. I havent had a problem yet. This is a capture from the Sierra load data with Titegroup starting at 1000fps. RCBS 9mm-125-RN-GC 123 TiteGroup 4.4 1045 129 . The google sheet has been updated for those interested in the difference or who want to reference the sheet. The largest difference was just over 1fps over a 10 shot average. I usually use the data for lead bullets when i load plated ones. 9MM - NATO Reloading In just five years, he has earned an impressive shooting resume with consistent top finishes at national level events. A lead bullet is a lead bullet as long as were talking a medium hardness. 124g berrys over 3.9g of titegroup 1.149 OAL. plated or jacketed bullet at 1150 fps minimum came closest to the ideal load. When I first learned it was long before Algore had invented the net. I got the adjustable charge bar for rifle loads and tried it out with titegroup and it did not work. After serving his country, George spent 20 years serving his community as a police officer. I sold off all except Titegroup. His last three years of service were spent at the 1st Marine Division Scout Sniper School as the Primary Marksmanship Instructor. In Brians first full season, he achieved several top ten finishes, two regional match wins, and a 20thplace overall finish in the National Rifle League. In her free time, she shoots in NRL22 club matches around the Kansas City area, where she lives with her husband Shane and where she works as a pharmacist. JavaScript is disabled. No Charges? 9mm/38 Caliber 9mm Load Data With Titegroup Powder 9mm Load Data With Titegroup Powder By looking4reloadingdeals December 31, 2019 in 9mm/38 Caliber Share Followers 0 Reply to this topic Start new topic 513 Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) Hello everyone, I have been putting together some load data for some of the loads I use commonly. Great powder, would recommend it to anyone shooting & reloading. LOL. Ryan still has a passion for hunting, but 3-gun gives Ryan and wife Dianna the opportunity to travel together and compete with and against amazing people. Pasted as rich text. You cannot paste images directly. He also placed second in the World Elk Calling competition. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. I ended up finding data for it on the instructions for the powder measure. Residing in Cheney Washington, Jake Vibbert owns JC Steel targets Inc. and is a strong competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and the National Rifle League. Thanks all. My conclusion is that a 115 gr. I use Titegroup in my sig p320. Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. And by comparison the Lyman 49th shows titegroup at 4.0gr to 4.5gr max for the same Hornady XTP bullet. Todd is a competitive shooter and firearms instructor. Wyatt has won numerous elk calling competitions at the ISE Best of the West Elk Calling Competition. I dont remember my powder charger right off the top of my head. Titegroup works very well for the load I am using on a wildcat. A consistent shooter, Regina has finished in the Top 20 routinely and in the Top 10 quite frequently in both the National Rifle League and Precision Rifle Series. I have been trying to get a 9mm 124gr RN load to reach 1200fps. Can't keep enough at the house. So filling up half way looks normal. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. Recently, well, a few months back, I loaded a thousand of the X-Treme 124gr PRN for my neighbor. Nam Vet, TiteGroup burns too fast for 9mm. She has competed on the TV series, 3 Gun Nation as well as an upcoming show called The Big Gun on Sportsman Channel, airing in Q1 2016. TiteGroup fpr 9mm | Ruger Forum Titegroup 9mm Load Data | Northwest Firearms This section shows you A LOT of information about 9 MM powders and how they compete against each other using the same brass, same bullet, same OAL, same primer, same gun, same day, same conditions..the only thing that is different is the powder. One is hard pressed to find a nicer person. All I ever used was Bullseye powderlove it. Dianna currently competes in the role of Captain for Team Benelli. It can be very dangerous because its so fast burning. Still using same load years later and it's a good round. May 7, 2012 9mm 124 gr FMJ 1.15" COL 4.3 gr Titegroup (a little hot) She has a passion to introduce the shooting sports and showcase gun owners and the 2nd Amendment in a positive light. So it is interesting that the starting 124gr load did not show a load for 900fps. JavaScript is disabled. Does it make a difference? Buy Sport Pistol or N320 instead. The bullets I have available are 124gr/125gr plated and jacketed and 147gr plated. I am now loading 4.1 grains TG with OAL of 1.135 to 1.140 inches. Just dirty as we ever seen and HOT. This made me wonder if it is a velocity issue, or a powder charge below 3.7gr issue since all these loads are for the same bullets. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Varget and H-4350 are the go to but since Ive been running some IMR Enduron powders that seem to work very good as well. COAL are generally +/- 0.005" seated using Lee seating die. In that time I have used it for both hunting and competition. 4.2 of titegroup over a 124FMJ is my 9mm load. Brian now competes in both the PRS and NRL Pro series. He is also a noted TV personality, regularly appearing on TV programs Shooting USA. Save Share. I shoot X-treme plated at 4.1 grains. 9mm has a rather consistent 115gr OAL. YMMV. 9mm Luger / 9mm Parabellum Ball-Type Handloads. Brian spent three years in Spokane as a Zag until his baseball career was cut short by a tragic plane accident that took the lives of his parents and younger sister. I dont think i would worry about it. Sorry for posting so many times in a row but I just got some new information. In the last several years I have really focussed on the PRS, ELR, and NRL Hunter.